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Offline John F

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #465 on: August 17, 2011, 06:39:06 PM »
Quote from: BoldJava on August 17, 2011, 05:44:31 PM
I haven't heard anything for a couple of days.


I got home 3 hours ago to find an empty house... the boss was out on a shopping spree at the outlet stores that I know puts her 2 hours from getting back min.

I flipped the PVL power switch, slammed the TV onto XM radio Hair nation, turned the volume up, and soon enough was pulling my first 4oz er. This Red Bird is performing like clockwork.

Soon after I was on the second 4ozer and Cinderella was swooping in over the sound of the milk steaming.

As I was only 1 sip into my drink I made a decision and by the end of my third sip I was grinding beans for my straight shot. Pulled the shot as I was finishing off my 4oz (this is something totally impossible to do on my old machine).

The shot was good enough to make we want to pull one more before heading out the door to go grab some more milk.

I jumped in my car after a 4 double session and pulled a random CD from the case, cranked the volume way up before the music even started. 3 beats into the first measure and I thought to myself that I bet I could have had one more just as the caffeine kicked in, I turned my stereo up a little more, and smiled really big because today life is good.

This is what people around me probably wanted me to turn down but I couldn't....just couldn't.

25 or 6 to 4- Chicago
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #466 on: August 17, 2011, 06:53:17 PM »
Quote from: John F on August 17, 2011, 06:39:06 PM

This is what people around me probably wanted me to turn down but I couldn't....just couldn't.
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Quite a story.  I am not sure you realize that group broke up.  The core regrouped and is now just Milwaukee.  <pulls air horn>.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #467 on: August 17, 2011, 07:45:12 PM »
Man, every time I see this thread pop up to the top, I think for a split second that I'm on the wrong site.


"A bit of lever action."
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #468 on: August 17, 2011, 07:45:54 PM »
Classic... turn it up to 11.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #469 on: August 17, 2011, 08:08:32 PM »
Quote from: staylor on August 17, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
Classic... turn it up to 11.

You know I did.

Dude....I'm so glad you worried the hell out of me by laughing at me when I was considering the smaller boiler Export.

I could have lived with it I'm sure but you were right.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #470 on: August 17, 2011, 08:34:47 PM »
Quote from: John F on August 17, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: staylor on August 17, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
Classic... turn it up to 11.

You know I did.

Dude....I'm so glad you worried the hell out of me by laughing at me when I was considering the smaller boiler Export.

I could have lived with it I'm sure but you were right.

PVL shots, Chicago on the stereo, livin' the dream.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #471 on: August 20, 2011, 08:41:12 PM »




Ponte Vecchio Lusso shot
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #472 on: August 20, 2011, 08:45:18 PM »
Wow John ... you've come a long way in a short time.

Nice shot!

I need that in my belly!


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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #473 on: August 20, 2011, 08:57:55 PM »
Quote from: mp on August 20, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Wow John ... you've come a long way in a short time.

Well, to be fair It's probably more the machine than me. The PVL is much more of a partner in the process than any other machine I've ever used. Right now the machine is doing stuff and I'm trying to let it teach me. Much different than other machines that feels like driving a car, this is more like riding a horse....  ???
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #474 on: August 20, 2011, 09:00:55 PM »
Quote from: John F on August 20, 2011, 08:57:55 PM
Quote from: mp on August 20, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Wow John ... you've come a long way in a short time.

Well, to be fair It's probably more the machine than me. The PVL is much more of a partner in the process than any other machine I've ever used. Right now the machine is doing stuff and I'm trying to let it teach me. Much different than other machines that feels like driving a car, this is more like riding a horse....  ???

Well ... if your machine is a horse ... and a wild one ... you are looking like a pretty good Bronco buster.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #475 on: August 20, 2011, 09:55:37 PM »
I think it was a bit fast (so tighten up your grind a touch) and try to anticipate the gap between lever pulls and make the shot flow more continuously. See how that works out for you in the cup.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #476 on: August 20, 2011, 10:02:37 PM »
Quote from: staylor on August 20, 2011, 09:55:37 PM
.. try to anticipate the gap between lever pulls and make the shot flow more continuously.

I've been aware of that gap but have not done anything yet.

Tomorrow now has a project.  8)
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #477 on: August 21, 2011, 07:57:35 AM »
Quote from: staylor on August 20, 2011, 09:55:37 PM
try to anticipate the gap between lever pulls and make the shot flow more continuously.

Alright Racer X...how do I do it?

Seems like as soon as I touch the lever in the downward motion it kills my flow. There is a lag time from the point of downward travel that causes me some "hang time" from that instant all the way until I bottom out on infusion and start the release back up.

Logically I'd go for the second pull sooner but (this machine is counterintuitive) doing that stops my flow.  :o

What's the deal on smoothing out the pulls to reduce lag time?

Spill it Brother!
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #478 on: August 21, 2011, 08:06:24 AM »
It's not easy because you are trying to keep the flow going but trying not to disturb the puch too much on lever pull. I think you need to do the pull just a bit faster to close that gap. If you go with a finer grind you might find that helps with the puck integrity.
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #479 on: August 21, 2011, 08:11:20 AM »
Quote from: staylor on August 21, 2011, 08:06:24 AM
I think you need to do the pull just a bit faster to close that gap.

You are probably right.

I'm moving very slowly and deliberately for the second pull.

I'll try picking up the pace without slamming the lever down. I'd be better off if I could have had the guy drill out my portafilter when I got it but he was acting very nervous about doing it and that made me nervous so I pulled the plug on it.

Do you normally start your second pull as the first lever tops out (up at the top) or do you start going back down closer to the 3/4's up mark?
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