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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #150 on: July 27, 2010, 04:27:49 PM »
In simple terms blonding determines the shot, in more detail I pay attention to the flow rate, blonding, viscosity and 'feel'.


Good words.  That helps me firm up in my own mind what I've been trying to do w/o realizing it.  My machine being where it is, has poor lighting at the PF.  So I have a hard time making fine distinctions when it goes blonde, which has me starting to look at viscosity and flow.  I've actually toyed with the idea of mounting a small LED or two, maybe the head from a small flashlight on either side of the group, as long as I could do it in a clean fashion and they wouldn't blind me as I'm watching the bottom of the naked.

After reading that page you linked to, I have some other ideas.  My machine has volumetric dosing, and I have it set to 2oz. on one of the buttons, but I programmed it by volume, which is hard to measure with the crema and all.  Now I'm going to reset it, as a shot pulls into an empty glass tared out on scale.

Thanks buddy.


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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #151 on: July 27, 2010, 05:20:50 PM »
My machine has volumetric dosing, and I have it set to 2oz. on one of the buttons, but I programmed it by volume, which is hard to measure with the crema and all.  Now I'm going to reset it, as a shot pulls into an empty glass tared out on scale.

Be careful there...

I'd say set it to 3oz to kill/bypass that feature but it's your ride. I'm just sayin'.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #152 on: July 27, 2010, 05:23:48 PM »
That's my other button. 

I like that one better....the "11".   ;D ;D
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #153 on: July 28, 2010, 02:37:43 PM »
Using the same grind setting, same tamp headspace, same blend, etc, I pulled two very different shots that were separated by less than a gram at the dosing. You can see the end result as liquid was quite different as was the lever technique required and that displayed itself as taste in the cup.

Shot using my iPhone so it's a bit 'wobbly'.

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Does a 1 gram difference make a difference in espresso

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #154 on: July 28, 2010, 05:33:08 PM »
Well then there is a demo Lusso at 1st line:

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Lusso 2G Black. This one has been modified. There is no hot water spigot. The hot water tap was no longer working- The hot water pipe has been removed and replaced with a second steam wand. The machine now has TWO steam wands, and two groups. Heavily discounted to $749 with a 30 day warranty.



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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #155 on: July 28, 2010, 05:38:43 PM »
Py ... you're funny ... John wants the 1 group PVL.

Although for $50.00 difference ... you may be making a very persuasive argument.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #156 on: July 28, 2010, 05:45:11 PM »
That was some nasty looking milk.

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« Reply #157 on: July 28, 2010, 05:51:54 PM »
That was some nasty looking milk.

Yeah ... but it made me feel good ... I feel like an expert next to him.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #158 on: July 28, 2010, 06:10:27 PM »
That was some nasty looking milk.

But it was really big.   ;D
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #159 on: July 28, 2010, 06:16:30 PM »
Py ... you're funny ... John wants the 1 group PVL.

Although for $50.00 difference ... you may be making a very persuasive argument.

 ;D

I finally had a lever vid to post.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #160 on: July 28, 2010, 06:33:28 PM »
That was some nasty looking milk.

But it was really big.   ;D

He could have used that milk to pack fragile espresso parts in boxes and ship them around the world.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #161 on: July 28, 2010, 07:01:33 PM »
John,

I been keeping an eye out for you. I figger this answers the 1 group vs 2 group question. 2 group Lusso for the price of a one group export.

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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #162 on: July 29, 2010, 12:05:01 PM »
Shot #5 for John


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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #163 on: July 29, 2010, 06:31:34 PM »
I see what you are doing.....   :help:
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Re: A bit of lever action
« Reply #164 on: July 29, 2010, 06:39:41 PM »
I just picked up my second Olympia Cremina! She gets here on Wednesday. Exciting, exciting, exciting.