Good or great espresso machines? Let the arguing begin!

[mp]

Angel's are spiritual entities who do not argue.

I don't believe there are any living in the great state of Texas.

Must've never been by SMU

Or seen the cheer squad at Texas Tech? every one of them!

Yeah...that pretty much sets middle ground for the state 

Are you implying that the great state of Texas is defined by its cheer leaders?

 

[gratefulroast]

One can only hope those girls are no angels 






 

[Tex]

It seems a lot of folks are confused about the purpose behind PIDing an espresso machine. A PID, in this application, has but one function; managing the temperature of the water in the boiler at a precise temperature, so that the water used to pull an espresso shot is the same at the beginning of every shot. That's it!

Manage the boiler's temperature so each and every shot begins at the same temperature, to within <1°F. Pretty simple stuff to be creating such interest, wouldn't you say?

[MMW]

Are you implying that the great state of Texas is defined by its cheer leaders?

 

Nope...they just set the standard for 5, maybe 6s.  

[Tex]

Angel's are spiritual entities who do not argue.

I don't believe there are any living in the great state of Texas.

Must've never been by SMU

Or seen the cheer squad at Texas Tech? every one of them!

Yeah...that pretty much sets middle ground for the state 

Are you implying that the great state of Texas is defined by its cheer leaders?

 

Better to be judged by the beauty of our gals than have them judged to be prime, choice, or select by the Canadian equivalent of the USDA.

[gratefulroast]

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Pretty simple stuff to be creating such interest, wouldn't you say?

I'd say

[Tex]

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Pretty simple stuff to be creating such interest, wouldn't you say?

I'd say

Move aside Mrs T³, da boy's in love again! ♥

[mp]

It seems a lot of folks are confused about the purpose behind PIDing an espresso machine. A PID, in this application, has but one function; managing the temperature of the water in the boiler at a precise temperature, so that the water used to pull an espresso shot is the same at the beginning of every shot. That's it!

Manage the boiler's temperature so each and every shot begins at the same temperature, to within <1°F. Pretty simple stuff to be creating such interest, wouldn't you say?

Considering the importance of maintaining proper brewing temperature for the bean ... I'd say this deserves a lot of interest.

 

[mp]

Angel's are spiritual entities who do not argue.

I don't believe there are any living in the great state of Texas.

Must've never been by SMU

Or seen the cheer squad at Texas Tech? every one of them!

Yeah...that pretty much sets middle ground for the state 

Are you implying that the great state of Texas is defined by its cheer leaders?

 

Better to be judged by the beauty of our gals than have them judged to be prime, choice, or select by the Canadian equivalent of the USDA.

As far as I'm aware ... we do not have USDA select.

Now there is something that Texas is known for.

 

[Warrior372]

Chris Coffee has the absolute best customer service in the business and in fact in any business as far as I have experienced myself and from others I know who use them as a trusted vendor.  If there was a problem with a new V2 La Spaz I firmly believe they would have made it right regardless of how much time or effort it took and on their dime (as it should be). I have had warranty part failure and a new one was drop shipped to my door arriving the next day. This seems like a pretty simple problem of offset temperature. The V2 is programmed so the set temperature is that of the water hitting the puck at the group and not the boiler temperature ( a nice feature in my opinion). If the owner was prepping good coffee beds with no channeling and getting horrible sour espresso it would be a simple diagnosis that the temperature was too low.  Did this person attempt to contact Chris and get a fix?  I am totally confident it would have been done in short order.  There is a very long list of highly satisfied customers from Chris Coffee in good part because they take care of the customer needs after purchase too.

I have had the exact opposite experience with Chris from ChrisCoffee. When I purchased my first machine, an Elektra MCaL 5 years ago, from 1st-line.com I realized it did not come with a 49mm tamp, just the small generic plastic one.  So, I perused the internet and noticed that ChrisCoffee staited the PFs took a 48mm tamper line-to-line, while another online vendor stated it took a 49mm tamp line-to-line. While, I contacted Chris and told him about the discrepency between sites. He proceeded to belittle and insult the other vendors industry experience and business setup. I happen to be a skeptic of anyone who is that outwardly abrassive and confident in anything, so I purchased a 48mm Reg Barber from Chris and a 49mm tamp from the other vendor. I did all of this with complete reassurance from both vendors that I could return the tamp that ended up not being line-to-line and receive all of my money back. While, Chris was wrong and did not stand behind his word, he took the return with a 20% restocking fee taken from the original total paid. He then proceeded to change the recommended PTamp size for an Elektra MCaL on his site from a 48mm to a 49mm. Not only did he not know what he was talking about, but he tried to verbally discredit another vendor, who was correct, and ended up not keeping his word. He is a stereotypical know-it-all. I have not purchased anything from him since, and will never in the future.

[Tex]

As far as I'm aware ... we do not have USDA select.

Now there is something that Texas is known for.

 

So, when I'm having a cup of coffee with my Canadian friends and a pretty girl (admittedly a rarity) walks by, I'm mistaken when they say 'eh' and I interpret that as approval in general? They're really rating her a grade A, equivalent to our Prime? How chauvinistic!

[mp]

As far as I'm aware ... we do not have USDA select.

Now there is something that Texas is known for.

 

So, when I'm having a cup of coffee with my Canadian friends and a pretty girl (admittedly a rarity) walks by, I'm mistaken when they say 'eh' and I interpret that as approval in general? They're really rating her a grade A, equivalent to our Prime? How chauvinistic!

You've got to admit it sounds a lot less chauvinistic than that is USDA select.

 

[Tex]

Chris Coffee has the absolute best customer service in the business and in fact in any business as far as I have experienced myself and from others I know who use them as a trusted vendor.  If there was a problem with a new V2 La Spaz I firmly believe they would have made it right regardless of how much time or effort it took and on their dime (as it should be). I have had warranty part failure and a new one was drop shipped to my door arriving the next day. This seems like a pretty simple problem of offset temperature. The V2 is programmed so the set temperature is that of the water hitting the puck at the group and not the boiler temperature ( a nice feature in my opinion). If the owner was prepping good coffee beds with no channeling and getting horrible sour espresso it would be a simple diagnosis that the temperature was too low.  Did this person attempt to contact Chris and get a fix?  I am totally confident it would have been done in short order.  There is a very long list of highly satisfied customers from Chris Coffee in good part because they take care of the customer needs after purchase too.

I have had the exact opposite experience with Chris from ChrisCoffee. When I purchased my first machine, an Elektra MCaL 5 years ago, from 1st-line.com I realized it did not come with a 49mm tamp, just the small generic plastic one.  So, I perused the internet and noticed that ChrisCoffee staited the PFs took a 48mm tamper line-to-line, while another online vendor stated it took a 49mm tamp line-to-line. While, I contacted Chris and told him about the discrepency between sites. He proceeded to belittle and insult the other vendors industry experience and business setup. I happen to be a skeptic of anyone who is that outwardly abrassive and confident in anything, so I purchased a 48mm Reg Barber from Chris and a 49mm tamp from the other vendor. I did all of this with complete reassurance from both vendors that I could return the tamp that ended up not being line-to-line and receive all of my money back. While, Chris was wrong and did not stand behind his word, he took the return with a 20% restocking fee taken from the original total paid. He then proceeded to change the recommended PTamp size for an Elektra MCaL on his site from a 48mm to a 49mm. Not only did he not know what he was talking about, but he tried to verbally discredit another vendor, who was correct, and ended up not keeping his word. He is a stereotypical know-it-all. I have not purchased anything from him since, and will never in the future.

And my comments were not directed towards Chris in any way, other than to say I expected an expensive machine to arrive completely tuned.

[Tex]

As far as I'm aware ... we do not have USDA select.

Now there is something that Texas is known for.

 

So, when I'm having a cup of coffee with my Canadian friends and a pretty girl (admittedly a rarity) walks by, I'm mistaken when they say 'eh' and I interpret that as approval in general? They're really rating her a grade A, equivalent to our Prime? How chauvinistic!

You've got to admit it sounds a lot less chauvinistic than that is USDA select.

 

eh? or A? Whatever!

[mp]

As far as I'm aware ... we do not have USDA select.

Now there is something that Texas is known for.

 

So, when I'm having a cup of coffee with my Canadian friends and a pretty girl (admittedly a rarity) walks by, I'm mistaken when they say 'eh' and I interpret that as approval in general? They're really rating her a grade A, equivalent to our Prime? How chauvinistic!

You've got to admit it sounds a lot less chauvinistic than that is USDA select.

 

eh? or A? Whatever!

Eh is an expression that requests consent ... as ... "that is a nice looking girl ... eh?" ... not "that is a nice looking girl ... let's grade her an "A"".